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Section 0 Edit

Tim Starling is working on the interwiki template system today, so you might see some bugs like the one you reported. Hopefully they'll be working again soon. You might want to subscribe to the mailing list to get updates on bug fixes and other Wikicities news. Angela (talk) 06:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I've added a Sitenotice since this wiki is currently getting a lot of visits from Japan so I wanted to make sure that Japanese users would be able to find other wikis if they couldn't read this English one. Angela talk 04:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Angela. Is there an easy way to check how many of the Japanese visitors actually look beyong the first few pages? I know this wiki is linked to from a Japanese portal that doesn't exactly explain the link is to an English site... -Afker 04:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Dungeons & Dolls Images Edit

I'm aware that AliceSoft has said no images of their games should be placed inside the Wiki unless the image itself is on their page as well, but I was wondering something...

I've been taking pictures of every girl in Dungeons & Dolls (about 80% done) and I was wondering if I could off-link to, say... My Photobucket account where they would all be. Would that still be in violation of AliceSoft's terms? -GrayFox2510 27 January, 2007.

Your photobucket account would be in violation of AliceSoft's terms, and I would consider linking to it also as a violation. I would advise using "imitations", some examples can be found in AliceSoftWiki:Policy (and it only took 10 minutes for me to make most of them). -Afker 03:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I did see about the imitations, but I think it wouldn't be the same. Oh well, at least I'll have a collection of them for if I ever feel nostalgic. Too bad I can't really show them off through. Thanks for the answer however. -GrayFox2510 30 January 2007

About Putting Links Edit

Hi, thanks for reminding me. I'm still pretty new to Wikis so I'm sorry that I've somehow broken the wiki rules when I don't realize. What I am trying to do is just to encourage more collaboration among the gaming communities, by putting game info's link on good wikis, and putting links to good wiki on game info. (AliceSoft's link is on Gameinfo's mainpage.) My approach may be a bit wrong this time, so let's promote our gaming community together in a good way! =) Also, thanks for visiting and editting for GameInfo, I hope our link on GameInfo will add visitors to AliceSoft too. --Eric 20:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

GalZoo Island Omake Dungeon Edit

Well, I can try revising it out of memory. Truth be told, I didn't really feel like going through that place again. Plus, I've already uninstalled (or more like simply deleted since there are no registry records) the game because I needed the space for some other things. Though then again, there's really nothing too hard about that dungeon aside from getting the tokens and fighting the... weird bosses that show up. -GrayFox2510 March 05, 2007.


Your comment on Anime:Animepedia talk:Wikia Graphical Entertainment Project was interesting. I don't feel that we're going to change the name further anymore. ACG is a Asian coined word, but it's not recognized in the Western world where most of the WGEP's readers come from. Plus technically it would mean we're using an abbreviation within an abbreviation. WACGP for the abbreviated form, Wikia ACG Project supposedly would be a proper name, but the real full name would be Wikia Animation, Comics, and Games Project. And because the readers are mostly westerners the Games part would get confused with other types of games which are under the watch of Wikia's Gaming Hub. And the biggest reason... T_T It's a hellofalotta work to change the name. I changed it from Wikia Anime Project to Wikia Graphical Entertainment Project, and there was so much work involved in that, even using Bots to take out most of the work there are still remnants of the old name left over.

As for the Alice Soft Wiki joining the WGEP, that sounds interesting. Have you familiarized yourself with the various things that happen to wiki which join the project? Pages with info on that can be seen at What will happen? and Extended information. The first thing I scanned were your templates. Once the AutoTemplate bot runs, your Template:Disambig, Template:PD, and Template:Stub will be overridden. And Template:GFDL will become useless (I can help with any migrating you want; Bots handle that like pie). So you should check over Anime:Template:Disambig, Anime:Template:PD, Anime:Template:Stub, and Anime:Template:FS. I'd be interested in learning a bit of the Alice Soft Wiki's policies and positions on various things to compare them with the WGEP's. I was at some point considering creating a bot to regenerate the sidebar (because the sidebar is used to link back to the WGEP, and at times new Top-Level wiki are added), considering the extra links would you be comfortable adding new links using a special type of format? Most likely it'll be done by adding a few subpages to MediaWiki:Sidebar which the bot will read to decide what to add in addition to the standard things.
One of the things which deterred me from AliceSoft, other than the Gaming focus was the Japanese. How much more Japanese is used in the general areas of the site? I see something even in the site notice, but I don't know what it means. The Visual Novel and Animanga Related Games section of the WGEP was a unofficial idea, not a planned phase. So it can actually come in at any point. In fact, it might make the MMKB a little less opposed to joining.

On another note, I saw your stuff on Image Use. But from my memory you can at least use a few screenshots from the games under Fair use laws. Of course, there would be a few limitations, but generally Fair use laws are geared with free documentation in mind. ~Dantman-local(talk|local) May 13, 2007 @ 20:41 (UTC)

I realize it won't work for much of the interface. But, using fair use you could probably use some box art, and screenshots of general areas of the games on the individual Game's main articles. It would be good for giving people a good look at what the game is actually like. On another note about re-drawing the interfaces. If you had your readers use SVG and draw those images in an editor like Inkscape, the quality of those images would be improved, and you could scale them up. ~Dantman-local(talk|local) May 13, 2007 @ 21:01 (UTC)
  • In terms of ACG, I was mostly using it as a springboard to make the connection that AliceSoftWiki's focus would be highly related to WGEP. Your arguments against renaming makes perfect sense, and I respect that (-:
  • Most AliceSoft games are not actually "Visual Novel and Animanga Related Games", unless you count having a stereotypical "Anime art style" as being "Animanga related". And if simply having a stereotypical "anime art style" is sufficient to being considered an animanga-related game, then the "Visual Novel" part of the section name probalby should be deleted for redundency and dilution of focus.
  • Thanks for the headsup about the template conflicts. I'm fine with using Animepedia's version of the templates, and also fine with our GDFL template being useless.
  • For the sidebar, as long as I can keep the custom links we currently have, I don't mind the exact formatting or addition of new links.
  • The usage of Japanese:
    • Japanse site notice - Angela added it for us originally, and I modified it slightly. It currently says "Welcome to wikia! For all Japanese wiki content, click here". Angela added it because supposedly we are getting quite a bit of traffic from Japan (our site is listed on one of the major Japanese PC game walkthrough portals).
    • On the main page - The Japanese paragraph on the main page says "AliceSoftWiki is a wiki for all the fans that support Japanese (although it's currently only in English). It is not the AliceSoft's home page. For AliceSoft's home page, click here."
    • Our Template:Box and Template:Game also uses Japanese. They display the English name, the Japanese name (in Japanese), and the romanization of the Japanese name, of various people/places/events/games etc. Our Games article also shows the games' Japanese titles alongside our translated English names.
    • Sengoku Rance:Version history currently has quite a bit of untranslated Japanese text. Those are just placeholders until I (or someone else) get to translating them into English.
    • If there are any that I forgot about, please let me know. In general, this is an English content wiki. Usage of Japanese is limited to notate the original Japanese term, or non-content notices for Japanese users (that are unnecessary for English users).
  • For image use, I intentionally chose a policy stricter than Fair Use, because the AliceSoftWiki is more as a fan wiki then the average "documentation wiki", and as an overzealous fan I would like to respect what AliceSoft wishes of us. That said, it is something that only applies to the AliceSoftWiki, and I do not intend to impose such limitations on any AliceSoft-related article on the main WGEP wiki (I assume for each game it'd have a general article on the WGEP wiki). Is letting AliceSoftWiki keeping its existing policy while having the main WGEP fairuse anything AliceSoft-related an arrangement that is acceptable to you, or do you believe that the AliceSoftWiki should allow any fairuse image in order to be part of the WGEP?
  • For naming policies, we currently adopt a "plain-text friendly" convention towards romanizing Japanese names. That means where wikipedia uses "ō" we tend to use "ou". Exceptions include things like "Tokyo" (Wikipedia doesn't use "Tōkyō" as their article name; and we probably won't use "Toukyou" if we need an article for that, unless it's something that happens to have the same pronouncation, but is not actually the current capital of Japan). In the end, as long as redirect works, I don't particularily care about the exact naming convention.
  • Importing from wikipedia
    • Atlach-Nacha is an article that is imported from Wikipedia. For attribution, I mentioned wikipedia and provided the perma-link to the version that I exported from Wikipedia. I'd be happy to have the article changed to whatever format WGEP requires for proper attribution to Wikipedia.
    • Aside from Atlach-Nacha, I don't really see any other article being imported from Wikipedia. If there happens to be a wikipedia article of decent quality on something AliceSoft-related, I'd be happy to import it. But generally speaking I can type up an article from scratch better than what's currently on Wikipedia (with respect to AliceSoft-related topics). So in general, I would prefer to be able to bypass the "when creating a new article, import what Wikipedia has first" policy. Of course I can hack around it by simply import the wikipedia article, then do a complete rewrite (keeping the attribution which will become meaningless), so it's not too big an issue for me.
Those are all the issues I can think of right now. -Afker 21:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

For centralization, this conversation is being continued on AliceSoftWiki talk:WGEP

Gaming Hub Edit

Hi Afker, I wanted to introduce myself. I've been working at Wikia for about 6 months working on a variety of marketing and business projects, but as of last week I am totally focused on growing our gaming communities. I think its great that you are asking the communities to link to the new gaming hub! I hope this will start to create a larger gaming community and editors will start editing multiple game wikis. We are also going to start to use the spotlight across Wikia to promote gaming wikis. Jimmy is doing an interview on G4 Network tonight to promote the gaming wikis so hopefully we will see a traffic bump from that too! Since you are obviously a passionate gamer and very knowledgeable I would love to get your ideas on other ways to grow existing and attract new gaming wikis angies (talk) 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Some thoughts:
  • I only sent out a general email over the mailinglist, which many people may not have read (or may not be on the mailing list). I'd suggest go to each gaming-related wiki, post on ther MediaWiki talk:Sidebar and/or Talk:Community Portal about adding the gaming hub to the profile. Then after a few days, have wikia staff add the gaming hub to the sidebar of gaming wikis that were inactive/apathetic (for the wikis that discussed it and decided against it, respect their choices).
  • Alternate use of the wikia blogs - Right now the wikia blogs is only some low priority experimental tech toy to see if certain wikias can gain exposure via various blog-spiders. However, I see it as having potential to help develop a sense of higher-order community. By letting members of the community feature articles from their side, and if we can let the gaming blog appear in the bottom of the gaming wikis (similar to how the Magazine wikias have RSS feed of content from other magazines, except I would suggest something that take up much less space), that can help encourage users to participate in other gaming wikis, or show them how other wikis structure their articles (and give them ideas on how to improve their own wikis).
    • Unfortunate wikia's current tech priority seems to be the new skin, and work on the blog is having lower priority. This affects which wikis actually can publish to the blog.
    • Another issue is that right now the Gaming blog is effectively taken over by fan fictions from the Earthen Ring Wiki. Fan fictions itself isn't a bad thing, but when other sites try to come up with an article from their own gaming wiki (which isn't a fan-fiction wiki, but a game-documentation wiki), it might skew the view of "what is appropriate" or "what is effective" to put on the gaming blog, and have an discouraging effect on other gaming-wikis to show case their feature articles on the blog at all. Thus I would suggest that fan fiction articles go on some "Creativity Blog" instead of the Gaming Blog. That might entail changing the blog association of Earthern Ring Wiki from Gaming to Creativity, or allow wikis to be a member of multiple blogs where they can choose which blog to publish about which article (as opposed to publishing in all the blogs they are associated with).
  • GameInfo needs a more active community to help establish itself as a focal point in the greater wikia gaming community. The hub on central is nice and useful and all, but a one-page hub isn't capable of building the greater community. We need an active community at GameInfo to be the nexus that cares about an inter-game meta-community, and that will attempt to keep wikis of individual games connected. GameInfo needs to establish enough of a reputation so that, if a particular game doesn't have its own wiki on Wikia, it would actually occur to a user to look on GameInfo and build upon the content already there (either by adding to GameInfo, or if the info has grown enough to split that entire section into a new wikia), instead of simply requesting and creating a new wiki from scratch.
    • Right now the w:Gaming hub seems to say that if a game "Foo" doesn't have a wiki, I ought to just request one, suggesting that there's nowhere else on Wikia that would have information on the game "Foo" (which effectively further cripples GameInfo from what it already suffers due to lack of activity, IMHO).
    • Unfortunately I lack time and concrete vision to actively take a part in helping GameInfo (my hands are already full with respect to my own wiki and some other stuff), but if an overall greater gaming community is to succeed on Wikia, I believe GameInfo needs to be active and successful.
-Afker 02:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, these are some great ideas. I really like your idea about using blogs more. I am going to spend some time thinking about that. I just submitted a request to engineering to enable the wiki to blog to all the Gaming wikis. Regarding GameInfo, I agree with you completely. We are actually talking about potentially using the MainPage of gameinfo as the hubpage. I don't actually get the feeling that any of the admins (Garret or Furrykef) are active anymore. Another idea we had was to merge gameinfo with gaming.wikia. They both seem to have a similar mission, and gaming.wikia community has been growing. Thoughts? angies (talk) 16:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Merging GameInfo into Gaming is a possibliity, though that idea has its own sets of issues:
The Magazine's system needs to be more transparent, so it doesn't feel like sites run by the NY staff who are too busy to do much with it. How do articles get promoted to "popular articles"? It seems the staff have sole power over it, and if they are too buzy, new articles gotta wait forever to become "popular", by when it may be out of date.
Articles become promoted based on the number of votes/comments the article receives and if it achieves the required number in 24 hours; after 24 hours, the score goes up. Votes are worth one point; comments by logged-in users are worth .25 points (with only one comment per use counting toward the score). The only power the NY guys have is controlling how many votes/comments it takes to get promoted. The reason the new articles have "taken forever" recently is because the amount of votes was set too high. But we are happy to lower it and also allow the community to determine what the requisite number of votes/comments should be, and are trying to make it so admins can set the publish score. --Roblefko 19:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The mazazine skin is too specialized, and doesn't allow much customization via MediaWiki: namespace. I've tried using Javascript to deal with it (see ), but I can't figure out how to make it work with Opera.

We're trying to make the site a lot more friendly to those who aren't familiar with MediaWiki, and the skin is the best tool with which to do that. Right now, building a skin that allows for user customization is really time consuming, so basically, we ask that you bare with us as we improve those services. It may be a long while, though, as we're still focused on adding features into the skin. --Roblefko 19:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The current layout of Gaming, IMHO, contributed to the flood of consol fanboy flame wars that plagued the beginning of Gaming.wikia's launch. And now after the immature children have moved elsewhere to flame, what's left is a remanent band of contributors trying to revitalize the site, but their effort hampered due to a number of things needing staff intervention which ordinary sysops lack power to do (or unconfindent whether they should do it or not, since the site feels like it's being run/owned by the staff).

The redesigned front page and general layout (which you've been helping me with and will be up next week) should fix that. Thanks for giving me advice on how it should look. We're also going to re-do the green menu bar so it is not focusing on specific consols --Roblefko 19:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I've tried to see what I can do by requesting my own gaming-related openserving, hoping with shared content but my own frontend I might be able to help with some stuff, but my openserving request still hasn't gone through. The number of contributors may be growing (counting after the fanboys left), but I don't see much of a community on Gaming. I believe the entire Gaming.wikia need a major structural overhaul (the skin, main page design, structure/organization of articles), and let contributors feel they have more power on the wiki (or alternately, the staff would need to put in significantly more time dealing with the structural issues of the site), before it can really rise out of the ashes of the consol fanboy flamewars and develope a general gaming community.

We're hoping that the redesigned front page and general layout, combined with the more social networking tools that you've already seen, will help foster a community. About the User: page move; well, you can still use the bottom of the User: page instead of UserWiki: -- that's for you and the rest of the gaming.wikia community to decide. We're just trying to brainstorm options. --Roblefko 19:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Magazine articles (opinions, reviews, news) ought to be clearly separated from the game articles (an information page about a game, a game or game series' mini wiki). Ideally I would like the magazine articles be tossed into a different namespace, however that will probably break a multitude of things with respect to Openserving's content sharing system, so it will probably have to be the the game articles that get tossed into a "Games" or "GamingWiki" namespace (not to be confused with the "Gaming" namespace for site stuff... which means it will be very confusing).

Different namespace causes all sorts of problems from an otisder's perspective, and honestly, have proven unnecessary on ArmchairGM. For those who aren't familiar with MediaWiki, they're more trouble than they're worth. Opinions and other articles that require a set-off are flagged by the vote box appended to it. So it's not a terribly bad problem. --Roblefko 19:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep, hear you on this and agree. I also shared your comments with Dan/Rob . They are working on a re-design (which I believe you are helping with) and are planning to spend a lot more time on the gaming.wikia going forward (as gaming in a top focus for Wikia right now). I think they do want community to have more active involvement (like they do on armchairgm) so I would encourage you to share these concerns with Rob. I think you will find him very open to suggestions you have about developing a productive community

As for the idea of putting the gaming hub on GameInfo's main page, I also have some thoughts:
  • Things like the Earthern Ring Wiki and the Halo Fannon don't really provide any information about the game. They are fan creations derivied from games. As such, they should have less or no prominence on the main page of GameInfo.
  • GameInfo should have a basic info page even for games that have their own wikis. Some gaming-wikis may make the assumption that any visitor to their wiki would already know the general information about the game. If the hub is to be on GameInfo's main page, then it shouldn't be linking directly to individual gaming wikis, but rather to GameInfo's own information page about the game, from where a prominent link to the gaming wiki is provided (except for other general wikis such as CheatBase etc that'd still have direct link from the GameInfo main page). This also makes mini-wikis (on GameInfo or elsewhere) more locatable in general. Games that make the GameInfo main page hub would be the ones that have its own wiki or mini-wiki somewhere (but the link on the main page hub would go to GameInfo's general information page on that game). Thus, on the main page there's be a link to Halo, and then Halo's page would have a prominent link to Halopedia and another link to the Halo fannon.

If we can work out the issues you described above I think this can all happen gaming.wikia, where each game will have its own "snap shot" page linking to its game-specific wiki (where there is one). I would propose banding these two small (somewhat inactive) communities together, gameinfo/gaming.wikia, to make something bigger/better using the great tools the NYC guys have created. Whatcha think? angies (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC) 17:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

-Afker 23:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Akfer. I agree with you about the blogs. I'd love to see them used more widely once we've fixed the remaining bugs in them, and I'll talk to Earthen Ring about which blog might be more suitable for their content. Features on gaming.wikia like the "popular articles" section can be changed by any admin. We're happy to make active editors into admins so they can help with these features - it's definitely not a staff-only thing. Whilst the NY team got the wiki started, it's like any Wikia site and relies on the community to maintain and develop it after that point. There is a division between the magazine and "library" content, but perhaps we need to make that clearer. It relies on page templates rather than namespaces, but there should still be a way we can make it clear which section of the site you're on. Angela talk

Hi Afker, I responded to all your concerns about gaming.wikia. See above (I wrote my response under each individual concern). We want you to lead the community at gaming.wikia so that we can focus on helping the wikia Gaming community at large grow... taking the above responses into consideration, what do you need from us? --Roblefko 19:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

  • After you guys are done with the social networking stuff and new features, and move on to the interface, first work on making the sidebar customizable by sysops via MW messages. Once that works and is rolled out, then worry about individual user customizability. (-:
  • I do acknowledge the issue with namespaces. My primary concern as been that when looking at Sitescout and RecentChanges, it can be hard to tell whether an article is a Magazine article or a game information article. With RecentChanges, it's actually doable via Special:Recentchangeslinked/(category), in which case I'd like to be able to place those links on the interface somewhere via Javascript.
  • Can the sitewide global javascript, MediaWiki:Common.js be enabled? That would give me (and other sysops) the power to modify the interface to improve user experience without you guys' intervention.
  • I understand for some Openservings, there is a concept of "Ownership" (which doesn't, or at least isn't supposed to, exist on normal wikias), and Ownership supposedly gives the user more power than a typical sysop. A while ago I've request an openserving (game-related, meant to share content with Gaming.wikia), partly to see what abilities being an "Owner" would give me, and thus to see whether it would be useful for me to ask for those abilities on Gaming.wikia itself. Is the "Owership" tied to the Bureaucrat flag? Or is it a separate user status thing? What are its capabilities beyond what sysops and bureaucrats can do on a typical MediaWiki installation?
  • I feel my vision and imagination are still clouded by the legacy of the "old" (current) site structure/interface. Lack of vision tends to increase skepticism. Hopefully as the structure/interface improves, I'll be able to see more and more. -Afker 00:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

DaiBanchou Characters Edit

Hey, was thinking about making a guide in here for DaiBanchou (I don't think too many play the game still, but since I was doing this for me anyway, might as well put it up here for others to see if the need arises). Anyway, I noticed there are two sections related to characters in DaiBanchou, one for "conquest" and the other for "stats".

The layout I had in mind included both stats and all of the stars requirements along with all other sorts of things together, so I was wondering if it was ok to "combine" both sections.

I probably won't upload much until I have it done. I'm using the help of Cinderwood from HongFire (well, the guide he started), so I suppose it shouldn't take me too much. -GrayFox2510 3.29, 20 October 2007 (GMT-6)

I think for stats it'd be nice for each character to have its own row, that way the table can have sortable columns. With this in mind, having the character clear info (stars requirement) in the same table might produce extremely narrow columns that are vary hard to read. Therefore I would advise against combining both sections, but encourage linking between two sections (so character A on the stats page would have a link to an anchor for the same character on the character clear page).
But in the end, "Having Content" is more important than the specifics of the formatting. You are welcome to structure the information in the best way you feel is appropriate (until someone else becomes interested in that section also, then you guys would have to discuss and reach a consensus). Anyways, thanks for helping out! -Afker 22:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, I actually revised the format. It looks simpler and not so crowded I guess. I suppose we can leave the section that only has the stats for a "quick glimpse" and the one I worked for the full blown-out details. Anyway, I'll upload a sample to my user page so you can see it. I still need to work on the images (which are coming from AliceSoft's site, don't worry). -GrayFox2510 8.07, 20 October 2007 (GMT-6)
The duel approach is fine with me. -Afker 02:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

uikert tupo Edit

test test test test name name anme

Feel free to test things in the Sandbox. -Afker 17:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


Say I wanted to add a few things to locations in Daiakuji. It is possible for you to organizise a map anywhere? Sine we can´t use screens I can`t take the one ingame.

Vjuchi 11:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

While you cannot take the one in-game, you can draw one yourself. See Sado for an example of me drawing my own map of JAPAN to illustrate where Sado is. I also hand-drew the maps for Kichikuou_Rance:Locations. Let me know if you want me to draw the Daiakuji Osaka map for you. -Afker 11:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Edit

Hi afker, you dont go to irc anymore?

The IP I use somehow got banned by Rizon for being drones or something )-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 12:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Afker, you want to move the channel somewhere else so that you can join too? I don't mind opening up another tab for another server. Jtle 19:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Thats a great idea

Hmm, I'd like to keep the channel on Rizon because #H-g is still there, and I like to stay in touch with our roots (with out H-g, the AIH and ASF channels probably would never have started), even if for whatever reason Rizon likes to ban the IP I use. That said, I am not opposed to branching to other networks. I'm going to set up a "mirror" channel in Freenode. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 00:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

That's fine with me and most likely with the others too. Just let us know when it's ready. Jtle 05:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'd prefer a servernetwork that supports SSL, personally. But anything is better than the current situation ;-) Backup1723 05:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Backup channel is up. See Project:IRC. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 05:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Toushin Toshi stuffEdit

Hello! Work's been keeping me busy, but I'm trying to get things going again >_< Anyway, I was looking at the character section and saw "Yayoi and Setsufu". I translated the 2nd ninja's name as Yukikaze (I think that sounds more ninja-ish maybe?) Is there a definitive reference on this? :) Skippy22 01:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

It's Paru, not Baru ^_^

Is there a spoiler tag to mark text so it's invisible until it's highlighted? Some of the plot stuff seems important, but bad to just blurt out for some of the chars (like Poe's story and Alexander's)

What's the story with X997 vs. X999? I see both in the script, but I don't really get it...Skippy22 02:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

There's no definitive romanization, but I'm fairly certain the second kanji in her name should be read as "fu" or "fuu" instead of "kaze". As for X997 vs X999, it's modeled on the traditional story of the guy who's collecting 1000 swords. So, X997 is teh guy's name when he's only defeated 997 ppl and took 997 swords. He wanted Custom's sword to be the 1000th in his collection, so he refuses to fight Custom until he has collected 999 swords (and became X999). -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 09:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk Alpha-29 Edit

Yeah I have checked out Toushin Toshi, looks very interesting (the third one) Does it have as much H as Sengoku Rance? o.O Also thanks for dropping by whenever I posted a change

RE: Fancy templates Edit

You mean a generic technique for things like See also?

I did make an interesting improvement to the Directory template. However it's not really portable right now, so it's desynced from acg.

I'd honestly rather work on pushing advanced stuff php side that would make these kind of things not need ugly hacks, but you know how I've been loosing interest in PHP and MediaWiki coding. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 1, 2009 @ 05:02 (UTC)

SMW? See the w:c:souleater:Episodes/List, the infobox w:c:souleater:Template:Infobox/SoulEater/Episode and the w:c:souleater:Template:Episode template that goes and turn the episode number into a full link and name (there is also formatting for a citation or even a full ref tag). ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 1, 2009 @ 06:27 (UTC)
What about adding a Property:Sequel of and autogenerating the inverse Property:Sequel and lists. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 1, 2009 @ 08:32 (UTC)
The only prev-next relationship I am using is forced by the game plot, but not really a proper intrinsic property of the individual dungeon areas (at least for the Mabil Dungeon). Thus I'm against setting actual properties between the different dungeon areas. )-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Pastel CC Edit

Hiya i tried making a brief guide on it could you "edit" it or give some feedback Cheers ^^


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Hey Edit

Hey Afker, I'm Richard1990, part of Wikia's gaming team. I'm just dropping by to gave your wiki some search engine optimization (SEO). The main thing I wanted to do was to change MediaWiki:Pagetitle and MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage so that they include 3 keywords that people often use to search for topics related to this wiki's subject. This will improve the rank this wiki will have when people search for those terms, resulting in a growth in the wiki's community. The Magic Bullet explains this and has some more tips. You may also want to use Wikipedia's Wikia template by using it on Wikipedia's articles related to this wiki's subject. I'll also leave this message on the talk pages of the other active administrators, if there are any.

So is it alright if I edit MediaWiki:Pagetitle and MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage? If you don’t reply in a few days, I’ll just go ahead and change them. You can revert my edits if you want, but you’ll be losing out on more contributors if you do.--Richardtalk 17:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Arg, why does Pagetitle-view-mainpage not default to Pagetitle? BTW, what *are* the three keywords people most often use to search on AliceSoft-related topics? We are approaching the anniversary when Webtools went stale and stopped updating. Generally I'd say go ahead, but I might have issues with specific words (or combo of words) that might just be accidentally giving us large amount of search traffic without being related. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 18:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Largely what I have been doing is using Google AdWords Keyword Tool for the 3 keywords. I put in th wiki's subkect (in this case, Alice Soft) and then set the country to United States and pick the 3 most search keywords. If there's odd keywords in the top 3 then I go down the list and pick the next best keyword that is applicable. If you want you can select the key words yourself or not bother with them, it is up to you.--Richardtalk 17:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Kojika Edit

Hi, I'm a newbie, so please excuse any mistakes I make by leaving a message here.

I've been playing Sengoku Rance, and I can't seem to recruit Kojika. I've seen her events (up to when she finally attacks Mouri's castle, where all her subordinates are killed, and she leaves after being raped) and conquered Mouri, but nothing more ever comes of her. There are no commands anywhere for recruiting her even though I have captain space and spare national power. What do I have to do?

Hi, Kojika is one of the trickiest one to recruit, and I don't remember all the required events to get her. But it would appear that when you conquered Mouri, some of the requirements are not met. Sorry I can't remember more to be of better help. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 20:29, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, it turns out that there was /one more/ event after Kojika's escape from Mouri castle - you have to see her working at a tea shop before conquering Mouri. I managed to recruit her after that.

Another question - any idea on how to get CG #14? It's the only piece of CG I haven't gotten yet.

What's up Edit

Hi, I'm BTK69, I'm learning japanese and I'm planning on making a game based on the Tsumamigui series.

Need Help Editing Edit

Hi Afker, new to wikia here. Decided to jump the gun and added a new page: Sengoku_Rance:Five_Star_Kill_Monkey_Alternative_Opening >_<. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the add section button on that page, so everything is kinda in a mess right now. If I missed something important, let me know. I'll try my best to fix it. EdibleDango 14:10, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

The add section button isn't automatically on for most article pages. I've enabled it for you. Let me know if you have any other questions! (-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 09:54, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I actually figured out how to add sections manually (by using subheadings in the edit), but it was confusing because it was different from every other pages I've seen. No more questions for now :) --EdibleDango 14:59, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Daiakuji Edit

Daiakuji's organizations

Thanks, I've thought about it. But I haven't read Daiakuji carefully enough to write about them.

Daiakuji's Oosaka map

Can you help me to create the map of Oosaka? Or just instruction to create a map? I've seen the code of the map oF JAPAN (Sengoku Rance) but I haven't understood it yet, men.
P/s: Sorry about JAPAN's article. JeroL

The basics about JAPAN's map is using a coordinate system. Basically we specify the x and y location to place link overlays over the map image. It took me quite a while guestimating and fine-tuning the x and y positions to place those links (just make a random guess, preview and see how bad off it is, then change the x and y a bit, rinse and repeat).
Btw, is the image of the Oosaka map taking from AliceSoft's website, or is it a screenshot you took? Our image policy would disallow direct screenshots. That is why for example for Kichikuou Rance I had to draw my own map. Thanks again for all your work on the wiki so far!!! -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 01:46, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Rance 6 Edit

Hi, I got the link to this wiki when I was playing the Yandere translation of Sengoku Rance. That game section was pretty well filled out, and everything I would need to know was on it. Then I started playing Rance 6. I've been getting through the game fine, but I noticed that the section for it was sparce, to say the least. I used to have a version of Atlas, but I have a new computer now, and I don't have the program anymore. Do you know of any good free translation programs? I've heard Babelfish works somewhat, but my old version of Atlas had me spoiled. If you do, it'd help me fill up the Rance 6 Wiki. Talvert 08:11, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately I am unfamiliar with translation programs. If you have specific paragraphs I can explain them for you, or specific questions about the game. Other people on the wiki or on IRC might know stuff too (the IRC is often very quiet, but if you hang around long enough you might see activity). Thanks for your interest in contributing to the wiki!!! -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 05:47, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I went ahead and set up the Japanese unicode and such to run AGTH, and honestly, while it is clearly not the best translation, Babelfish is manageable. I think I can use context to clue in everything else. It's Rance, anyway. How hard can it be to understand his motives? Talvert 09:34, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Haha cool. Well, still feel free to ask me when you need to understand the villians' motives! d-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 15:02, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I got a free trial of Atlas, and it is SO much better than babelfish. I can use it to actually understand stuff now... although one thing has been bugging me... does 様 at the end of a name mean sama? Like ランス様 would be Rance-sama? Atlas translates it as Rance externals... Also, is there a way I can PM you or something? I feel like I'm adding needless clutter to your talk page. And one last thing, how do you change the title of a section? I was wanting to change the Gal Monsters section of Rance 6 into a basic enemies section, then make the gal monsters and their locations a sub-section of it.Talvert 07:19, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Yes ランス様 would be Rance-sama, Atlas failed (-: Don't worry about "cluttering" my talk page, the whole point of user talk pages is for this type of purpose, unless you *really* got something private to message me that you don't want it being visible to other people... As for the "title of a section", what you really meant was the title of an entire page/article. The Template:Rance 6 nav you tried editing is merely a template providing links to articles. To rename an article, you can find the "Move" tab in the upper right area of the page. Anyways, I'd advocate moving it to "Enemies" and not "Monsters", since there are human enemies in the game as well (-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 19:54, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


Can you tell me how to recruit Kaga Motoko without making her a prostitute? I follow the instruction at Daiakuji:Character clears#Wakame yakuza and capture Kaga Tarou. But after torturing him four times, I don't find any event at Senri. - JeroL

It's been a while since I played the game, so I dont' remember clear. According to the instructions, make sure:
  • Motoko has been kidnapped by her father
  • Wakame fallen
  • it is not yet the 4th week of August when you torture Tarou for the 4th time.
If all these conditions are met, then I'm really not sure what is wrong. I can try dig around Japanese walkthrough sites to see. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 19:59, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I think I missed the 4th week of August condition. I've successfully recruit Motoko. - JeroL

Another question, about Ran's character clear: going against Ippatsu after breaking Satsu's heart? What does it mean? And how can I recruit Yamazawa Asami? Defeating Wakame and City Council? - JeroL

For Ran's clear you need to be in Satsu's route I think. If you are in Satsu's route then breaking her heart is probably obvious. To recruit Yamazawa Asami, she needs to be captured by the Wonderful Doctor (in Wakame) and become a drug addict, and then you need to defeat Wonderful Doctor / Wakame to rescue her. There might be a time limit that you need to rescue her by, not entirely sure. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 19:59, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I've killed Suteki before his testing Asami, so that's why I failed @_@ - JeroL

Some more questions (sorry for taking your precious time):

Can you tell me how to go through each of five heroines' routes?

For Nogi Kikuko, maybe that's talking to Shigehiko in Nogi residence? And how to clear her? - JeroL
For Kaga Motoko, take her as a subordinate and what else? Marrying her as the walkthrough will clear her, yes? - JeroL
And for Haku Minka, Takega Satsu and Henri Pelori, how to meet the condition to go through their routes? - JeroL

About Ran and Aoba: how EXACTLY to prevent Aoba following Ippatsu after defeating Wakame? NOT capture Ran? Defeat Wakame before the doctor joins? Or NOT recruit Motoko? - JeroL

And, is it REALLY impossible to have both Aoba and Motoko as suborinates? - JeroL

I think: 
Capture Ran -> Lose Aoba; 
Defeate Wakame after the doctor joins -> Lose Aoba;
Timeline: The doctor joins Wakame -> Tarou fights -> Be able to capture Tarou and torture him; 

Because I've encountered these cases: 
Kill Ran before the doctor joins -> Have Aoba and lose Motoko (can't capture Tarou because he doesn't fight)
Capture Ran before the doctor joins -> Lose Aoba and lose Motoko (can't capture Tarou, same reason)
Kill Ran after the doctor joins and Tarou's been tortured four times -> Lose Aoba and have Motoko (after the doctor joins)
Capture Ran after the doctor joins and Tarou's been tortured four times -> Lose Aoba and have Motoko (capture Ran)

So the only way to get both Motoko and Aoba (or at least that I think) is:
Kill Ran and torture Tarou four times before the doctor's joining -> Have both Motoko and Aoba

And I can't do that because I've only encountered Tarou begins to fight after the doctor joining.
  • Kikuko -- keep talking to her grandfather. After numerous visits, a dialogue choice shows up. One of them gets you Kikuko. Forgot clearing condition, probably automatic when clear game.
  • Motoko -- probably just marry her for clear
  • Minka -- Keep visiting her to raise affection. Then one day she'll ask you to make a choice. Abandon the dirty life and you'll be able to marry her (which places a notable of handicap on you for the rest of the game).
  • Henri -- I think you need to clear Minka first, then when starting a new game one of the options will replace Minka with her. Then keep visiting her until she disappears. You'll find a dungeon, get to the bottom to have the choice to save her (or get some item? and lose her)
  • Satsu -- Don't quite remember, but I think you need to clear all the other heroines first (not sure if include Henri). Then when starting a new game you'll be given the choice of getting her route.

Daiakuji (cont.)Edit

Not sure about having Aoba + Motoko. But since you can't get Ran & Motoko at the same time anyways, might as well clear Motoko the same run you clear Ran if that is the case. BTW, do you actually kill Ran, or just defeat her?? -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 01:16, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
About Ran's "death", I think I really killed her: Her HP reduces to 0 and a coffin's image replaces her image, that's what is called "Death" to characters in Daiakuji I think ^^.
I've countered a new case: after Ran is raped by Dekao (he and Dr. Suteki overthrown Wakame), attacking Senri and takeing over Wakame doesn't make Aoba follow Ippatsu, and this case Aoba and Motoko are both my subordinates. - JeroL
Thank you for the instructions. That helps me a big time. I've just finished coding the map of Osaka.
Where can I go to visit Minka and Henri? - JeroL
How can I recruit Tsukigase Nene, Toki Haruka and Haguro? - JeroL

adding pictures Edit

So how do you add pictures to the site and would love to add some to my dungeon section

also would love to get some feedback on my addition!

Zaldar 00:57, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

While editing articles, one of the buttons in the "tool bar" lets you pick a picture from your computer to upload. Keep up the good work~! (-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:16, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

daiteikoku Edit

Hey Acker,

Don't need anything around Daiteitoku at the moment, but I will start Brushing up on my Japanese soon, so I can get some Translation going. I'm really poor skill level at Japanese, So it will take awhile for anything to translated.

What I would like to know is this.. I know that alicesoft has blocked their site (I've used ijapan glype proxy, but I can't get the images which also have information on it, and I am wondering also how to actually purchase Daiteitoku if it is Japan sales only. I searched the web, but haven't found a consistant answer.

I'll keep posted on the Daiteitoku project on my page.

Spacebomber 16:40, November 12, 2010 (UTC)


Hi SpaceBomber,
You can check out A guide to buying AliceSoft games for online merchants that usually deal with eroge. Daiteikoku is still too far away so it won't show in their catalog, but Shaman Sanctuary is already available for pre-order. As for proxies, I also can't find one that loads images yet. Anyways, welcome to the wiki and thanks for your participation! -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:37, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not to sure how to use Wiki I know how to add pages., but I want to add a sidebar table of contents page to daiteitoku like in the the big bang age. I am going to clean up a bit.
Thank You for the Improvements! I appreciate it.
Hiya maybe a bit late but try this proxy when the "weather is good", it shows the pic just need to be patient.
KingofKongs110.139.61.57 14:41, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
Hi Afker, still wiki illeterate, cut can you add sub pages under the nations page for Daiteitkoku?
I just need sub pages for the Main ones. Japan, Gamerika, Aeris Empire, Soviets, Dokutsu 3rd Empire for now. 21:43, February 25, 2011 (UTC)Spacebomber I'll be working on the wiki pages over spring-break.
Hey Afker, I'm still rather new to the wiki, so please bear with me. I've been visiting the site for a while and with the release of Daiteikoku, I've decided to do whatever I can to help improve the site. Anyway, as I've been going through the pages of Daiteikoku, I was noticing that we have a page for both Conversation Choices and for Events. The events page is currently a stub while the conversation choices page is not, but it seems to me that in the long run, combining the two into a single page might reduce the confusion that some users might have when visiting the wiki. Might I suggest making the conversation choices a sub-heading in the events page? Anyway, thanks for your time. Sagekita 01:02, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
I just started playing, and to me "Events" are the list of things you choose from, once every turn. That definitely should be separated one way or another from the "choices" that pop up from time to time in the game where you have to pick a response. I am neutral as to whether they are on the same page or not, but some differentiation is definitely needed to avoid confusion. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 12:20, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Daiteikoku Translation Edit

Hello Afker, Spacebomber, JeroL

I'm new here on AliceSoftWiki, please to meet you.

I have wandered around here for years since Sengoku Rance age. And I want to say thank about wonderful walkthrough there, so I think I would like to help out on this new project too.

Now I'm living here in Japan. (but I'm not Japanese though~) Therefore it is very easy for me to access to the AliceSoft official website and also I think I can translate the details there too. So I would like to ask for permission first, if it ok or not for me to add the info in Daiteikoku page.

By the way, my English could have a lot of mistake, since studying here in Japan for years now, my English has gone insane T.T. And it might needs a lot of correction...

To sum up, I would like to join in your team for completing the Daiteikoku page in this wiki.

Looking forward to your answer and have a chat with all of you.

P.s. I will post this in everyone talk page.

Piyapong Wongwaiwit Wii 14:32, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome! The spirit of the wiki is that anyone can help out! There are no official "teams" in charge. Anyone who wishes to participate can go ahead and start editing!!! (-: Feel free to ask me any questions related to wiki editing -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 23:39, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Linking to this wiki Edit

Greetings. I just wanted to let you know that I relinked to here on the Touhou Wiki. I was looking at the edit history and it seemed like there was a link for a long time and then it was removed for pretty much no reason I can discern.

Let me know if that is ok or not, I see you are linking to us so I doubt you'd have a problem with it, but I always like to make sure.

VS3025 23:20, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for restoring the link! (I was the person who originally put the links on both of the wikis). -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 05:58, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Collapsible Menu thingy at the top? Edit

How do I put collapsible menus in newer wikia pages? Before just adding topics within == == parameters would automatically generate a collapsible index with those sections at the top of the page, but I can't make that happen anymore :( Gahahahahahahahaha!! 10:23, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

If hte page has 3 sections or more then it gets auto-generated. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 17:12, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and you can use the "Paragraph format" combo-box in the visual view to change the level of a section to "Heading 2", "Heading 3"..., it's easier than adding == == parameters. Inarashi 17:21, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Is it OK to add NSFW material? Edit

Please check this out.

^ That one. It shows Rance fucking a chick but

    1. 1: It's how the system description on AliceSoft site goes and this is a hentai game. But is it against Wikia policies in general?
    1. 2: If so, the picture actually has all "critical parts" hidden (which is why I didn't censor it, there's not anything to censor), is it (nude pic without showing anything) still disallowed? In this context, I noticed that wikis of other games do have nudity:

Please reply soon. Gahahahahahahahaha!! 13:15, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I think it is problematic. It also does not help the wiki explain the game to people. Images of people engaging in sexual activity and images of nudity are also rather different. Therefore I would recommend deleting File:S1_6.jpg. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:23, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, can you explain how we can delete an image? And how to rename them? I've searched around but find no option, button, or guide to do that. Inarashi 10:11, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
Deleting and renaming ("moving") of images requires an account that has administrator access. Sailabc1 already has administrator access, though I already deleted S1_6.jpg. I've also just given you administrator access. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:29, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
Oh Great! So... what are my duties as an Administrator? And what else can I do beside rename/delete image? Inarashi 05:09, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
Can I ask a favor from one of you three then? I uploaded a new front-page image for Rance Quest, and it needs renaming. 04:35, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
I already done that, just before reading your request above. Inarashi 04:52, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
In terms of "duties", just use common sense and don't abuse the tools at your disposal. This isn't a job. There are just some tools that not everyone have access to by default because it could be a mess to clean up if someone not familiar with wikis makes a mistake. In general, anyone (even people without an account) can keep an eye on the Recent Changes, watch out for spam/vandalism/mistakes, and revert bad things that happen. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 07:22, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I got it. Inarashi 05:26, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Resolve Conflict Edit

Mind intervening a little? I wrote what I thought it was like. Tell me what you think. The other guy seems pretty pissed that I took exception to his wording. =.=' Gahahahahahahahaha!! 07:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

About the character profile template Edit

Is there any convention to the use of character profile template on this wiki? I noticed that after a while, somebody would replace the Alicesoft character template like the one in Ragnarockark Super Gandhi with Character template like the one found in Uesugi Kenshin. Just curious because I found the Alicesoft character template to be more of my taste so I often use it in character pages, and if they're gonna be replace by the Character template later, I'm thinking of changing my habit. Inarashi 05:26, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Template:Alicesoft Character was created by Daitiansg. I personally do not prefer it because 80% of the template have values "n/a" when being used 90% of the time... Do you simply prefer it because of the colors/fonts/styling, or some other reason? -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 07:32, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
Mostly because I finds the font-size and colors make that template easier to read, the styling is also more "elegant" (or at least that's how I see it). The other template have smaller font and not as good-looking in my opinion. How about we use the color format and font-size of Alicesoft character template for the Character template? I think it would get us the bests of both templates. Inarashi 06:28, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Box Art Template Edit

Someone has been going around messing it up—by changing all the prices to "8925(8500+TAX5%)." You can see for yourself how that stretches out the boxes. Never mind if you think it's fine. I'm probably being nosy, but I believe the template should be changed to clearly indicate whether the price is taxed or untaxed. Aurabolt213 21:52, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it should be standardized to the pre-tax price. Got any good ideas on how to do the clarification in the most elegant way? -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:50, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I didn't bring this up for no reason, huh? Anyway, I'm believing where it says "Price (¥)" should have a prefix or something. Some word clearly indicating this space is for the—here are some suggestions—"Base price (¥)," "Untaxed price (¥)," or "Pre-taxed price (¥)." I actually like the first one, and here is the dictionary definition: "the initial price of something (goods or services) without the additional charges that may be added, such as handling or shipping charges, sales tax, optional equipment charges, etc. Aurabolt213 15:33, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, is it too much to move the "import guide" link elsewhere in the template? Then remove the "(¥)," and let contributers insert ¥ along with the price? Because changing it to say "Base price (¥)" may break/stretch the template. Aurabolt213 16:22, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
I just moved the Yen sign to see how it looks. I don't want to leave it out directly or some people might start entering USD starting-bid amounts they see on eBay... -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 05:54, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
Oh God, we can't let that happen, haha. Anyway, it looks good. Aurabolt213 06:03, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

About class of NoirEdit

I understand youkai is Noir's race and in-game she works like a normal bushi as far as her class is concerned, but even so didn't the game specifically classify her as "youkai" type in the commanders menu (like all other girls of Masamune)? Gahahahahahahahaha!! 07:50, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, interesting observation that I failed to notice/remember. Overall my personal stance is still to keep it as simply bushi though. The character page is documentation from an in-universe lore perspective (as opposed from a game-specific game-mechanics perspective), and youkai as a character class just doesn't make much sense to me when considering the in-universe lore. My 2 cents. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:37, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Attempted to Edit Character Template and Failed Edit

I tried to add B/W/H, height etc. from the old template to the new one so we can phase out the older template but having difficult understanding its formats, and furthermore I couldn't get the new fields to be integrated into the "edit with form" in character pages. Also how to make fields in the template invisible when they're empty? Gahahahahahahahaha!! 11:24, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Just how many characters actually have a valid B/W/H and height parameter? My estimate is approximately negative one, which is why I never even considered putting it into the template. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:39, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
also, you mixed up which one is old/new. The one we want to phase out (= the one with B/W/H and height) is the newer one. q-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:41, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
Well, whichever, I just wanted the currently used template have all fields from both templates so that the "new phased out" template becomes 100% obsolete and we can discard it with a "let's make the door hit your ass on your way out" grin on our faces lol. And in a way to let the new template show B/W/H parameters only if those parameters are explicitly input (remains hidden if those parameters are not put). Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 16:29, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
Optional fields makes the wiki slower. If the optional fields have actual values in them a significant number of times, then I'd consider it as an good-enough tradeoff. An example would be Rance-universe specific stuff, because a very high percent of characters from AliceSoft games are from the Rance universe (even if many don't have a page on the wiki yet). On the other hand, I wouldn't add any Daiteikoku or Daibanchou universe specific fields into the character template. Characters with static B/W/H and height data are super rare. I would suggest if such data is available for certain characters, that we put it somewhere in the main text of the article, as opposed to creating a special field that only gets used on those rare pages. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 07:49, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

WTF is this... Edit

Only now I took a close look at this. Doesn't this mean the vast majority of most everything graphic is going to have to be removed from the wiki? This is gonna leave this place stark naked, and only women look good that way. D: Or is this one of those like the rape eroge ban law that's just "stated" but didn't need to be actually enforced? We're not ripping them off in any way after all. Gahahahahahahahaha!! 06:23, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think the idea was not to piss Alicesoft off back when we still thought that MAYBE in the future Alicesoft would eventually translate their games to the English market and sell them, when we sort of thought they MIGHT acknowledge the wiki a bit.

Unfortunately Daiteikoku pretty much shows they not only don't care about us, I got a feeling they sort of just want us to go away. So, I don't know, to be honest I got a feeling all it does is just hinder people when they're trying to explain gameplay mechanics. For me, as long as you don't just dump all the sex scenes CG on a page it should be open to put up menu screens and stuff. TokiNoKimi 11:13, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

That's an ancient policy from 2006 back when the wiki started. Lately I haven't been bothering to actively enforce it, mostly because I don't want to be too discouraging to the people enthusiastically participating in the wiki. I won't be actively getting non-conforming images deleted from the wiki, though I would still advocate that we try to follow that policy as much as possible (including using fan art with the artist's permission).
BTW, images found on Getchu are not in "Public Domain". AliceSoft still owns the copyright to those images, Getchu has explicit permission to use the images on their site.
-Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:33, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
Well, my comment on this is "no comment" then, if that's comment enough for you. ;) Like I said only girls look nice naked~ :P Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 16:34, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Increase page width somehow? Edit

We need to increase the width of the tables a little bit, but if we do that in the new (it's f'ing annoying to me personally, much difficult to navigate and find options) layout the tables get truncated and must be seperately expanded to view fully. Is there a way to increase page width and get rid of some of the ads so this doesn't happen? Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 16:46, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

There's no easy solution that works for the common visitors. Individual users with account can go to their Preferences and switch to the "Monobook" skin. Otherwise I think using the popout button to expand the table is the currently most optimal solution for users who do not have an account. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 21:15, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
alright, figured it out. For it to work properly though you still need to manually specify a width. BTW, you can link to pages on the wiki just by putting the page name in square brackets, for example
[[Rance Quest:PCs and Skills]]
produces the link to Rance Quest:PCs and Skills -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 21:51, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
I'm aware of that, I just pasted the full URL coz I was lazy :P
Also I'm aware that Monobook fixes it, it's my fav layout too. But I can't edit tables graphically (code only) in it, so I have to keep switching between them to edit the PC & Skills table...
You are playing Rance 8 now, right? Is King Gandhi gettable in this game? Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 04:07, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
My copy is still being shipped. Gonna wait for it. You should come hangout on the IRC channel, a few ppl are discussing the game (and random other stuff) at different times of the day (-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:07, August 28, 2011 (UTC)


I didn't visit this place for a long time and now came to take a look what's new and maybe to add some content. And broke my eyes hardly. I heard that touhouwiki ran away in fear from wikia after redesign, but I didn't think it was THAT bad. Now I know, it is.

Excuse me if this is impolite suggestion, but isn't it time to move project to some better place? Wikia is just... ugly. Ugly pages, uncomfortable navigation, aids everywhere. It is unpleasant to read and even more unpleasant to edit.

Please think about moving project, I don't think there is anything that could be lost.


Please add a wordmark Edit

See w:Template_talk:Wikia_Gaming_Footer#Guidelines. You can request a wordmark for you wiki at Logo Creation wiki. --Fandyllic 15:56, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Uhhh... The heck is a wordmark by the way?
Forget it, figured it out and added one. @Afker: See if this one's suitable. Change it if there's a need to. Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 19:30, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
Meh, thanks for working on it, but it hurts my eyes more than the crappy color scheme I made for this wiki. I personally don't want us spending energy on a piece of graphic that will become out of date the next time Wikia changes its skin. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:01, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question about Daiteikoku organization Edit

Afker, I have some questions about the Daiteikoku pages. Many of the admiral and character pages are extreely incomplete, and I was going to flesh those out. However, I was going to include information related to their ingame stats as well. I was going to do this because around half of the admirals pages already had these stats included on them. The section of the wiki here, Admirals, already shows all of each admirals statistics, and how they are captured. Would it be appropriate to also include this information on their specific character pages, or should it be removed from those, to keep double information out?
I ask this because I was looking over various other parts of the wiki and noticed that none of the Sengoku Rance character pages had any statistical information, only information related to their character and triva. Is that what is most appropriate? Thanks.
Audio017 20:03, October 24, 2011 (UTC)Audio017
If you go by the existing policy that I set up way back in 2006 when there was nobody else to agree/disagree/discuss with me, then game-specific information should be removed from character pages. The idea is that the character pages should more be like a biographical entry about the person, independent of the game(s) that person is involved in. Imagine how a character page would look like if you include all the game-specific info from all the 20 games that character is involved in!!!
Though unless you have a lot of energy to keep the look-and-feel and formatting of Daiteikoku chararacter articles consistent, I wouldn't consider it necessary to go through all pages and remove the game-specific information. Just fix things as you come across them.
BTW, the policy is definitely open to debate. Need to keep logical organization, intuitiveness of lookup, and ease of maintenance of the information in balance.
-Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:09, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

About edit in "Devil" page Edit

Glad that's cleared up and you are understanding. Didn't know about that info. Xcetron 01:50, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Page's titles Edit

Heya, I want to ask about some page's titles. Following the katakana, isn't her name supposed to be "Mill Yorks" ?

That's also applied to her sister as well (gonna edit this page soon soon soon) :

This supposed to be Milli Yorks. Sality 12:55, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'm actually not sure if there are official or standard romanization for "miru". But I think you are right about Milli. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 06:25, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
I asked my friends who currently lives in Japan/study Japanese. How they pronounce "Miru" is either "Mill" or "Mil", it cannot be "Mile". So is it safe to change their page's title ? I'd never go as far as to change page's title.. so, yeah. Kinda afraid to do that ;3. Sality 08:04, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
I can't read katakanas, but according to japanese friends and some researches on the internet, it seems Mill and Milli fit better than Mile and Mily.
edit: forgot to post links i found : Milli & Mill . Can they be available ??
YpnotiS 14:25, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
If there is an official source, it is always preferable to find it, but as an AliceSoft fan knowledge site, is pretty authoritative. Sality should practice renaming the article (it's one of the dropdown options from the main "Edit" button) (-: -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 07:00, November 9, 2011 (UTC)
Aye, I already renamed and edited both. But I will need someone to proofread/QC those since I don't really confident in my english, which is not my first or second language here. Also, if it's possible, can you add the missing contents ? My knowledge of Rance is only limited to the translated games (minus Rance 1), so I am clueless to the others like Rance 3, Rance 4, etc. I need help.
Sality 16:53, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Delete PageEdit

I believe this page isn't necessary since it's the same person (according to the dialogue in said game if I am not mistaken) as Can you delete the page ? Or give me the authority to delete if possible ? Thank you.

Or if I do really mistaken, then maybe we can just redirect the link to its wikipedia entry instead ? Takauji is never really mentioned during the later dialogues, meaning there is no additional information aside from what stated in Ashikaga House entry. It's still not worth a page^ imo.

Sality 03:54, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

From the Ashikaga House article, it should be appearant that Takauji is the ancestor of Choushin. IMO that is sufficient to be worth having his own article. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:16, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
Well, there is nothing we can add for his own page, right ? All of the information in regard to him is already written in the Ashikaga House article after all. Sality 11:43, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
If Rance's article mentions he uses the sword Chaos, does that mean we should avoid mentioning Chaos is used by Rance in Chaos' own article? -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 11:55, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
No. But unlike Chaos, Takauji really doesn't have more information that we can add in his entry to make it (slightly) different than the one in Ashikaga House (maybe a historical reference would be enough, but that's that), though the choice is still yours to decide, so yeah. Thank you.
One more thing, should I alert you everytime I messed up my upload/mistakenly create a page in the future ? Just for anticipation.
Sality 12:58, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Was wondering if you want to link to or host the followingEdit

We at the Tropes Mirror Wikia have MediaWiki converted copies of the Rance Series TV Tropes pages (formerly in TV Tropes pmwiki format), and we we're wondering if you'd like to take advantage of them.

Most have been removed due to the new content policies implemented at TV Tropes, so we are hosting them at our site, which is intended to be a Wikia alternative to TV Tropes (current WIP):

They are freely distributable by the Creative Commons Share Alike Unported 3.0 license, and if they are of interest to your wiki, feel free to link to them or use them for your own purposes (make sure to mention where they originally came from TV Tropes if you do).

So far, we have the main pages up (some have been fully converted, others are WIP), and we plan to import the rest (with some moderate alterations to adhere to Wikia content standards).

Below are links to the pages we have imported thus far:

If your community wishes to edit these pages, glean them for useful content, or help us import the rest or host your own versions of these pages, we welcome and encourage all the above.

P.S. - We are in dire need of editors for these pages and our other content, and we would also like to invite you and the members of your Wikia to participate on our own, should you so desire. If not, we understand entirely and hope your own wiki continues to thrive.

And, on a personal note, I couldn't have beaten Sengoku Rance without the information your site provided.

Koujist12 00:02, June 29, 2012 (UTC)Koujist12

I'm trying to add an English version of the SSG for Sengoku Rance but everytime I do it sets off the spam filter. Is there an alternate way for me to contribute this?

AkiraTepes (talk) 16:02, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Possible NSFW image Edit

You decide what to do. I'm not sure what to do coz #1) it doesn't have nipples and could be considered valid for illustration gallery of Kayblis and #2) I'm a huge pervert and have a weakness for perverted images. :P Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 16:29, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Good lord. Edit

Saw what happened with the wiki articles in the last week just now.

Would it be unreasonable of me to be trigger happy about protecting pages (from anonymous editors at least) for a while? Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 19:08, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

What's the point when none of the pages were vendalized twice?  And protecting it from anons means the vandals just need to register an account to vandalize, AND anons cannot fix problems without registering an account.  So unless it is a continuous on-going problem on a number of specific pages, I don't think it'll do much good.  -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 20:49, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Renaming Images Edit

Hi, I would like to go through all the Kichikuou Rance images and rename them. I will have a lot of free time for the next few months and I would like to give them actually descriptive name. You told me earlier on my talk name to give them descriptive names and so I would like to change what is now CG0002 and change it to something like Kichikuou_Rance-Sill_Plain.png. Unfortunately I am unsure how to do it. I believe it may require permissions I do not have. If I do in fact do this I will go back and change all instances of the old name to the new one, as I have done when updating/renaming characters to the current translation in the Rance series. Worldslaya (talk) 22:05, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hey afker me again, Just posting again to let you know that I'm still willing to go through the wiki and change image names in a way that makes sense. Worldslaya (talk) 14:44, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Not to butt in but will it really serve any practical purpose to show for your efforts? People come to wikis to read articles rather than view images, and images serve as illustrations to supplement said articles more than anything else. If it's a particular character's gallery, just put in that character's article (its gallery section) and when people visit that page, they'll see the images they need to see, regardless of whatever name the file has. Thus file name doesn't mean anything. Only exceptions are boxshot and nav bar images of games IIRC, where the filename needs to be in a specific form in order to be automatically displayed. Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 11:43, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
@Sailabc1: Well I was the one complaining about the image names, so Woldslaya's offer to rename the images he previously uploaded would be one of the natural/logical responses to my complaint (as opposed to trying to show off). Having meaningful file names do help with the overall wiki organization/management, especially with regards to keeping an eye on Recent Changes.
@Worldslaya: Sorry for the delayed response. I was looking into the permissions stuff, then forgot about it. I've added you to the administrator group so you can rename/move images. Make sure you use the admin tools with care (though in most cases, if you mess up, other people in the administrator group can undo the damage, so don't be too scared from using the tools). -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 12:26, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Daibanchou Missing From Menu Bar Edit

Hi, I just wanted to point out that Daibanchou/Big Bang Age is missing from the Walkthrough tab of the menu bar (wiki navigation). Phoenix169 (talk) 07:22, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added it. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 06:52, March 31, 2014 (UTC)
Wow, that was a quick response. Thanks for adding it in! Unfortunately, the Popular tab on the menu bar seems to have been wiped with your edit. I'm guessing that wasn't intentional...? Phoenix169 (talk) 10:17, April 17, 2014 (UTC)
Oops, not sure how that broke. Fixed. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 13:20, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Question about physical copy of Escalayer Reboot - not site related Edit

Hi, Afker. I used to frequent the #Alicesoft_Fans channel on irc and glad to see you are still maintaining this site. Since the alicesoft site regional block its hard for me to know what games are coming up so its great this site still exists. My question is not about the wiki but rather about Escalayer Reboot. Its one of my favorite alicesoft games so I was thinking of importing the physical copy. Looking at the getchu page it shows the Beat Blades Haruka vs Escalayer image as part of the description for the game. Is this included with the game? I can't tell looking at other sites like toranoana. If its a store specific promo then I would just try to buy it from there or whichever store has it as a promo. Thanks again for all the hardwork. Also, because its been a long time since I've played any new eroge, if there's any new DRM stuff I have to worry about trying to install it on an english win 8.1 system or region lock or activation code thing that'd be great to know in advance if you know. 02:43, September 2, 2014 (UTC)sheepfire

Greetings~! As far as I can tell, "Beat Blades Haruka ~ Haruka vs Escalayer" (which was part of Alice 2010) is included in Reboot, not as a store-specific promo. AliceSoft hasn't changed its policy on avoiding DRMs as far as I can tell, but as usual it often uses Japanese characters in file names and folder names, which can cause problems installing on a typical English Windows computer. Setting the locale ("Default language for non-Unicode programs") to Japanese will solve that issue on any English Windows computer. Hope this answers all your questions!
BTW, the #AliceSoft_Fans channel is still alive on Rizon, feel free to come hang out! (although most of the time people are just idling and afk). -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 07:04, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Time to upgradeEdit

It's time for the Talk Page to upgrade to Message Wall. Don't you think so ?

I'm actually more used to traditional talkpages.  Easier to organize threads of discussion.  But if lots of people think the message wall is more conducive to discussions on the wiki, I'm fine with it being changed. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 04:25, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

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